Comments on: Sakhyam’s Razor: A reply to Dhanurdhara Swami http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/ Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:29:32 +0000 hourly 1 By: Kula-pavana http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-6319 Kula-pavana Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:52:49 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-6319 You write in this article: "Babhru’s actual words are important to note. He wrote that “some of Srila Prabhupada’s more spirited, aggressive expressions may be attributed to, or at least perhaps better understood in the context of, an affinity for sakhya-rasa.” He then gives two examples: Srila Prabhupada’s well-known retort, “I will kick on his face with boots,” and his remarks about dropping bombs on the heads of atheists. Although both gopis and gopas can exhibit harshness, this particular manifestation of harshness, which contains chivalry and a suggestion of violence, is characteristic of sakhya-bhava, fascinated with these qualities as young boys often are." I really like that explanation. I think his dealings with his Godbrothers can be seen in the same context of sakhya-rasa boistrous expressions. Harshness and chivalrly of sakhya-bhava - his little moments of sakhya ecstasy... You write in this article:
“Babhru’s actual words are important to note. He wrote that “some of Srila Prabhupada’s more spirited, aggressive expressions may be attributed to, or at least perhaps better understood in the context of, an affinity for sakhya-rasa.” He then gives two examples: Srila Prabhupada’s well-known retort, “I will kick on his face with boots,” and his remarks about dropping bombs on the heads of atheists. Although both gopis and gopas can exhibit harshness, this particular manifestation of harshness, which contains chivalry and a suggestion of violence, is characteristic of sakhya-bhava, fascinated with these qualities as young boys often are.”

I really like that explanation. I think his dealings with his Godbrothers can be seen in the same context of sakhya-rasa boistrous expressions. Harshness and chivalrly of sakhya-bhava – his little moments of sakhya ecstasy…

]]> By: Bijaya Kumara Das Brian D Grover http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-3207 Bijaya Kumara Das Brian D Grover Sun, 03 Jan 2010 06:53:19 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-3207 I have been waiting for months for Dhanurdhara Swami reply that he said would be done after his June 15th dead line for a previous commitment. What has happened since? I have been waiting for months for Dhanurdhara Swami reply that he said would be done after his June 15th dead line for a previous commitment. What has happened since?

]]> By: swami bv tripurari http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1867 swami bv tripurari Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:21:22 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-1867 Some gurus do this, but I don't think you can say that most do. Nor is such siksa expressly detailed in the sections of Bhakti-sandabha or Bhaktirasamrta-sindhu dealing with mantra diksa. Some gurus do this, but I don’t think you can say that most do. Nor is such siksa expressly detailed in the sections of Bhakti-sandabha or Bhaktirasamrta-sindhu dealing with mantra diksa.

]]> By: swami bv tripurari http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1866 swami bv tripurari Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:16:37 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-1866 Religious fundamentalism. Religious fundamentalism.

]]> By: Namarupa http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1858 Namarupa Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:24:45 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-1858 "It’s rare enough to know one’s own guru’s svarupa, which one spends one’s entire life in pursuit of" Most Gaudiya gurus tell their disciples what their swarup is. That is part of the siksha given with the guru mantra and guru gayatri. Darshan of it, is of course, a matter of bhajan. “It’s rare enough to know one’s own guru’s svarupa, which one spends one’s entire life in pursuit of”

Most Gaudiya gurus tell their disciples what their swarup is. That is part of the siksha given with the guru mantra and guru gayatri.

Darshan of it, is of course, a matter of bhajan.

]]> By: Namarupa http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1857 Namarupa Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:22:01 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-1857 "My relationship with someone’s guru, however much I respect and revere him and his service, will necessarily differ from his own disciples’ faith. They should not read that difference as disrespect or indifference." It would be nice if more disciples of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja felt that way. So often they expect the entire world to feel the same way about Prabhupada that they do, and be just as much into him as they are. What gives? “My relationship with someone’s guru, however much I respect and revere him and his service, will necessarily differ from his own disciples’ faith. They should not read that difference as disrespect or indifference.”

It would be nice if more disciples of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja felt that way. So often they expect the entire world to feel the same way about Prabhupada that they do, and be just as much into him as they are. What gives?

]]> By: Kula-pavana http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1648 Kula-pavana Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:17:25 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-1648 sorry... posted in the wrong thread... admin, please move to: Do Atheists Borrow Religion’s Morality? sorry… posted in the wrong thread… admin, please move to: Do Atheists Borrow Religion’s Morality?

]]> By: Kula-pavana http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1647 Kula-pavana Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:15:47 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-1647 Why should atheists be immoral by default? We are capable of holding very complex systems of values. Are all religious people moral by default? Study history and find out. Why should atheists be immoral by default? We are capable of holding very complex systems of values.

Are all religious people moral by default? Study history and find out.

]]> By: swami bv tripurari http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1645 swami bv tripurari Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:00:05 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-1645 Thakura Bhaktivinode understands the siddha deha as arising from bhakti and beginning to show itself to the guru and disciple at the stage of ruci. Thus it is subsequently discussed and settled. But it can come earlier as well in terms of a particular attraction to one of the primary rasas. I think that it may very well be helpful to a sadhaka to settle this matter early on, at least in a general sense. But greed for this as it is sometimes called should be distinguished from curiosity seeking. Thakura Bhaktivinode understands the siddha deha as arising from bhakti and beginning to show itself to the guru and disciple at the stage of ruci. Thus it is subsequently discussed and settled. But it can come earlier as well in terms of a particular attraction to one of the primary rasas. I think that it may very well be helpful to a sadhaka to settle this matter early on, at least in a general sense. But greed for this as it is sometimes called should be distinguished from curiosity seeking.

]]> By: swami bv tripurari http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1643 swami bv tripurari Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:28:47 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=725#comment-1643 Well said. Well said.

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