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	<title>Comments on: Sakhyam&#8217;s Razor: A reply to Dhanurdhara Swami</title>
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		<title>By: Bijaya Kumara Das Brian D Grover</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-3207</link>
		<dc:creator>Bijaya Kumara Das Brian D Grover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 06:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been waiting for months for Dhanurdhara Swami reply that he said would be done after his June 15th dead line for a previous commitment.  What has happened since?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been waiting for months for Dhanurdhara Swami reply that he said would be done after his June 15th dead line for a previous commitment.  What has happened since?</p>
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		<title>By: swami bv tripurari</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1867</link>
		<dc:creator>swami bv tripurari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some gurus do this, but I don&#039;t think you can say that most do. Nor is such siksa expressly detailed in the sections of Bhakti-sandabha or Bhaktirasamrta-sindhu dealing with mantra diksa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some gurus do this, but I don&#8217;t think you can say that most do. Nor is such siksa expressly detailed in the sections of Bhakti-sandabha or Bhaktirasamrta-sindhu dealing with mantra diksa.</p>
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		<title>By: swami bv tripurari</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator>swami bv tripurari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religious fundamentalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious fundamentalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Namarupa</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1858</link>
		<dc:creator>Namarupa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s rare enough to know one’s own guru’s svarupa, which one spends one’s entire life in pursuit of&quot;

Most Gaudiya gurus tell their disciples what their swarup is.  That is part of the siksha given with the guru mantra and guru gayatri.

Darshan of it, is of course, a matter of bhajan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s rare enough to know one’s own guru’s svarupa, which one spends one’s entire life in pursuit of&#8221;</p>
<p>Most Gaudiya gurus tell their disciples what their swarup is.  That is part of the siksha given with the guru mantra and guru gayatri.</p>
<p>Darshan of it, is of course, a matter of bhajan.</p>
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		<title>By: Namarupa</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1857</link>
		<dc:creator>Namarupa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My relationship with someone’s guru, however much I respect and revere him and his service, will necessarily differ from his own disciples’ faith. They should not read that difference as disrespect or indifference.&quot;

It would be nice if more disciples of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja felt that way.  So often they expect the entire world to feel the same way about Prabhupada that they do, and be just as much into him as they are.  What gives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My relationship with someone’s guru, however much I respect and revere him and his service, will necessarily differ from his own disciples’ faith. They should not read that difference as disrespect or indifference.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be nice if more disciples of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja felt that way.  So often they expect the entire world to feel the same way about Prabhupada that they do, and be just as much into him as they are.  What gives?</p>
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		<title>By: Kula-pavana</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1648</link>
		<dc:creator>Kula-pavana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry... posted in the wrong thread... admin, please move to: Do Atheists Borrow Religion’s Morality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry&#8230; posted in the wrong thread&#8230; admin, please move to: Do Atheists Borrow Religion’s Morality?</p>
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		<title>By: Kula-pavana</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1647</link>
		<dc:creator>Kula-pavana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should atheists be immoral by default? We are capable of holding very complex systems of values. 

Are all religious people moral by default? Study history and find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should atheists be immoral by default? We are capable of holding very complex systems of values. </p>
<p>Are all religious people moral by default? Study history and find out.</p>
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		<title>By: swami bv tripurari</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1645</link>
		<dc:creator>swami bv tripurari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thakura Bhaktivinode understands the siddha deha as arising from bhakti and beginning to show itself to the guru and disciple at the stage of ruci. Thus it is subsequently discussed and settled. But it can come earlier as well in terms of a particular attraction to one of the primary rasas. I think that it may very well be helpful to a sadhaka to settle this matter early on, at least in a general sense. But greed for this as it is sometimes called should be distinguished from curiosity seeking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thakura Bhaktivinode understands the siddha deha as arising from bhakti and beginning to show itself to the guru and disciple at the stage of ruci. Thus it is subsequently discussed and settled. But it can come earlier as well in terms of a particular attraction to one of the primary rasas. I think that it may very well be helpful to a sadhaka to settle this matter early on, at least in a general sense. But greed for this as it is sometimes called should be distinguished from curiosity seeking.</p>
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		<title>By: swami bv tripurari</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1643</link>
		<dc:creator>swami bv tripurari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Amara dasa</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/05/sakhyams-razor-a-reply-to-dhanurdhara-swami/comment-page-1/#comment-1637</link>
		<dc:creator>Amara dasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Gopa!  Please accept my dandavat pranamas...it&#039;s great to see you here as I had no idea you were still around.  You definitely made my day!

Personally I have always leaned toward the conclusion presented by Babhru, Tripurari Swami, and others, even long before the evidence presented so nicely in &lt;em&gt;O My Friend!&lt;/em&gt;.  Still, I don&#039;t mind hearing other opinions and taking them into account, even if I don&#039;t agree with them.  There are always differing views and disagreements among &lt;em&gt;sadhus&lt;/em&gt;.  I even heard one devotee say that Srila Prabhupada has two separate forms in &lt;em&gt;lila&lt;/em&gt;, one as a cowherd boy and the other as a &lt;em&gt;manjari&lt;/em&gt;!

A while back Tridandi Maharaja was staying with me and we were trying to find any reference to the &lt;em&gt;manjaris &lt;/em&gt;by Srila Prabhupada.  We found only one usage of the term in all of his books (&quot;The Nectar of Instruction,&quot; pp.90-91) and even there it was only in parenthesis.  To me that says a lot in itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Gopa!  Please accept my dandavat pranamas&#8230;it&#8217;s great to see you here as I had no idea you were still around.  You definitely made my day!</p>
<p>Personally I have always leaned toward the conclusion presented by Babhru, Tripurari Swami, and others, even long before the evidence presented so nicely in <em>O My Friend!</em>.  Still, I don&#8217;t mind hearing other opinions and taking them into account, even if I don&#8217;t agree with them.  There are always differing views and disagreements among <em>sadhus</em>.  I even heard one devotee say that Srila Prabhupada has two separate forms in <em>lila</em>, one as a cowherd boy and the other as a <em>manjari</em>!</p>
<p>A while back Tridandi Maharaja was staying with me and we were trying to find any reference to the <em>manjaris </em>by Srila Prabhupada.  We found only one usage of the term in all of his books (&#8220;The Nectar of Instruction,&#8221; pp.90-91) and even there it was only in parenthesis.  To me that says a lot in itself.</p>
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