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	<title>Comments on: Mystic Poetry and Yogic Enlightenment</title>
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		<title>By: prajyumna</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/07/mystic-poetry-and-yogic-enlightenment/comment-page-1/#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>prajyumna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to ask the question I asked above in a different way:
There are people studying in universities and college. They are learning and learning and learning. And yet they don&#039;t always grow in realization. 
There are even many religious people and spiritualists who practice their dogma and their rituals and they don&#039;t always grow in realization. 
And yet, wisdom can be found in someone without any degrees or qualifications. Where does wisdom/realization come from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to ask the question I asked above in a different way:<br />
There are people studying in universities and college. They are learning and learning and learning. And yet they don&#8217;t always grow in realization.<br />
There are even many religious people and spiritualists who practice their dogma and their rituals and they don&#8217;t always grow in realization.<br />
And yet, wisdom can be found in someone without any degrees or qualifications. Where does wisdom/realization come from?</p>
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		<title>By: prajyumna</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/07/mystic-poetry-and-yogic-enlightenment/comment-page-1/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>prajyumna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This paragraph you have written beautifully summarizes a lot of the issues in modern society:
&quot;Fortunately we are not left only with this method. Empiricism and reason alone tell us we are nothing, while love tells us we are everything. What we need is well-reasoned love, for we are neither nothing nor everything. The language of such love is arguably mystic poetry; its method is the self-discipline of yoga.&quot;

Enlightenment is something subjective, or associated with the individual, the subject. Science seems to more engage in the materially objective. As such, the realm of material science seems &#039;out of boundaries&#039; with the language of enlightenment.

What is the relation between enlightenment and realization? What is realization? 
After all, poetry is of different qualities. So how does one differentiate between realized poetry that is from an enlightened person as opposed to that which is not?
In other words, how can a someone be a more discerning consumer of poetry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This paragraph you have written beautifully summarizes a lot of the issues in modern society:<br />
&#8220;Fortunately we are not left only with this method. Empiricism and reason alone tell us we are nothing, while love tells us we are everything. What we need is well-reasoned love, for we are neither nothing nor everything. The language of such love is arguably mystic poetry; its method is the self-discipline of yoga.&#8221;</p>
<p>Enlightenment is something subjective, or associated with the individual, the subject. Science seems to more engage in the materially objective. As such, the realm of material science seems &#8216;out of boundaries&#8217; with the language of enlightenment.</p>
<p>What is the relation between enlightenment and realization? What is realization?<br />
After all, poetry is of different qualities. So how does one differentiate between realized poetry that is from an enlightened person as opposed to that which is not?<br />
In other words, how can a someone be a more discerning consumer of poetry?</p>
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		<title>By: swami bv tripurari</title>
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		<dc:creator>swami bv tripurari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My suggestion would be to bring the actual controller into one&#039;s life. This is the devotional approach to the problem. Draupadi of Mahabharat fame was subjected to a force disrobing in public. With no material recourse at her disposal, she tried to control the situation by clinging to her sari with one and and chanting &quot;Govinda&quot; with the other hand extended upward in appeal for help from above. However, her sari kept unraveling until she gave up and lifted both hands upward while continuing to chant.  Then the actual controller supplied her with an unlimited length of sari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My suggestion would be to bring the actual controller into one&#8217;s life. This is the devotional approach to the problem. Draupadi of Mahabharat fame was subjected to a force disrobing in public. With no material recourse at her disposal, she tried to control the situation by clinging to her sari with one and and chanting &#8220;Govinda&#8221; with the other hand extended upward in appeal for help from above. However, her sari kept unraveling until she gave up and lifted both hands upward while continuing to chant.  Then the actual controller supplied her with an unlimited length of sari.</p>
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		<title>By: sd</title>
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		<dc:creator>sd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for such a beautiful article.

How does one with a desire to control move away from such a situation? The very desire itself to distance one&#039;s self from the controlling desire cannot be arrived at forcefully or by any method within one&#039;s reach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for such a beautiful article.</p>
<p>How does one with a desire to control move away from such a situation? The very desire itself to distance one&#8217;s self from the controlling desire cannot be arrived at forcefully or by any method within one&#8217;s reach.</p>
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