Comments on: The Taste of Ruci http://harmonist.us/2009/10/the-taste-of-ruci/ Tue, 22 May 2012 13:40:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: Margaret http://harmonist.us/2009/10/the-taste-of-ruci/comment-page-1/#comment-2144 Margaret Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:27:06 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=2898#comment-2144 Thank you, Swami and Nitaisundara. Thank you, Swami and Nitaisundara.

]]> By: swami bv tripurari http://harmonist.us/2009/10/the-taste-of-ruci/comment-page-1/#comment-2143 swami bv tripurari Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:32:03 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=2898#comment-2143 Wealth itself is considered to be one of the fruits of dharma. Indeed, most people follow dharma for artha, religion for prosperity. Several Bhagavata commentators have underscored this extension of dharma. To be dharmic is to prosper. Sri Caitanya is not interested in dharma for material prosperity, heaven and so on. This is the general idea of dharma, and of course the Bhagavatam rejects this notion of dhamra and calls it "cheating religion" (kaitava dharma) in relation to prema dharma, the full face of dharma Wealth itself is considered to be one of the fruits of dharma. Indeed, most people follow dharma for artha, religion for prosperity. Several Bhagavata commentators have underscored this extension of dharma. To be dharmic is to prosper. Sri Caitanya is not interested in dharma for material prosperity, heaven and so on. This is the general idea of dharma, and of course the Bhagavatam rejects this notion of dhamra and calls it “cheating religion” (kaitava dharma) in relation to prema dharma, the full face of dharma

]]> By: Nitaisundara http://harmonist.us/2009/10/the-taste-of-ruci/comment-page-1/#comment-2122 Nitaisundara Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:35:03 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=2898#comment-2122 I think what this refers to is that good karma is a result of piety, and although relatively speaking that is a good thing, ultimately Gaudiya Vedanta aims at going beyond karma, both good and bad. The fruits of piety (wealth, beauty, talent, etc.) do not necessarily encourage us to see the futility in material life. Therefore, of the four types of anarthas it is said that there are anarthas arising from bad karma (duskrtottha) <em>and</em> anarthas arising from good karma (sukrtottha). Often times it is bad karma that serves as the negative impetus for us to dig deeper, like the Buddha once he saw the dark side of life. So Mahaprabhu is saying that he forgoes <em>all</em> of the various goals pursued in material life and even into transcendence, including that which might appear progressive from other vantage points. Of course it is not that dharma and bhakti are inherently opposed, but Mahaprabhu is clear where our loyalty should lie when they do come into conflict. I think what this refers to is that good karma is a result of piety, and although relatively speaking that is a good thing, ultimately Gaudiya Vedanta aims at going beyond karma, both good and bad. The fruits of piety (wealth, beauty, talent, etc.) do not necessarily encourage us to see the futility in material life. Therefore, of the four types of anarthas it is said that there are anarthas arising from bad karma (duskrtottha) and anarthas arising from good karma (sukrtottha). Often times it is bad karma that serves as the negative impetus for us to dig deeper, like the Buddha once he saw the dark side of life.

So Mahaprabhu is saying that he forgoes all of the various goals pursued in material life and even into transcendence, including that which might appear progressive from other vantage points. Of course it is not that dharma and bhakti are inherently opposed, but Mahaprabhu is clear where our loyalty should lie when they do come into conflict.

]]> By: Living Entity http://harmonist.us/2009/10/the-taste-of-ruci/comment-page-1/#comment-2119 Living Entity Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:35:48 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=2898#comment-2119 Maybe His Holiness Srimate Tripurari Maharaja can elaborate? Maybe His Holiness Srimate Tripurari Maharaja can elaborate?

]]> By: Margaret http://harmonist.us/2009/10/the-taste-of-ruci/comment-page-1/#comment-2110 Margaret Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:13:05 +0000 http://harmonist.us/?p=2898#comment-2110 Could someone please explain further to what "the wealth of religosity (dharma)" refers? Thanks. Could someone please explain further to what “the wealth of religosity (dharma)” refers? Thanks.

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