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	<title>Comments on: Kurt Gödel&#8217;s Perspective of the Divine: A Rational Theology</title>
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		<title>By: Ishan das</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/12/kurt-godels-perspective-of-the-divine-a-rational-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-11483</link>
		<dc:creator>Ishan das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Krishna explains to Arjuna in Bhagavad-gita:  

&quot;I am situated in everyone&#039;s heart and from Me comes knowledge, remembrance and forgetfulness.&quot;

Therefore one&#039;s logic, no matter how sophistocated or how crude, as well as the conclusions one reaches, are all under Krishna&#039;s administration.  

In this way the demonic heart will always conclude against the existence of a beautiful Supreme Being.  And the saintly will conclude in favor of our love for that Supreme Person.  

As far as logic and reason go, Lord Caitanya, in discussion or debate, would defeat the logical presentations of His opponents.  Then He would confound them futher by defeating His own conclusions.

According to the invocation to Sri Ishopanishad, although the Supreme Personality and Source of all that be produces so many phenomenal univereses, He still remains perfect and complete.  1 - 1 = 1.  And although He can expand Himself into unlimited forms, still 1 + 1 = 1.

Srila Bhaktisiddanta Saraswati insists that material logic can never encompass the Absolute Truth.  And so the whole prospect of proving or disproving God by logic is a useless pursuit.  

However, even with our empiric approach we can see that the computer programming that is compressed into a tiny seed is millions of times more sophistocated than the most advanced computer produced in our factories. 

The arguments in favor of Supreme intelligence underlying the cosmic manifestation are blatently endless.  But insight is witheld from those who are envious.  

Srila Prabhupada repeatedly explained that one cannot taste the honey by licking the outside of the bottle.  In otherwords, the real scientist cannot be totally objective.  He has to place himself inside the test tube at the feet of the self-realized guru.  But the ability to recognize such a spiritual master will only be granted, by Krishna, to the most sincere seeker.  

So if we want God, we can know Him.  And if we don&#039;t - we can&#039;t.  The argument is not between individual souls.  It is between the conditioned soul and God, Who has nothing to loose.  Whatever position we take, Krishna will support it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krishna explains to Arjuna in Bhagavad-gita:  </p>
<p>&#8220;I am situated in everyone&#8217;s heart and from Me comes knowledge, remembrance and forgetfulness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Therefore one&#8217;s logic, no matter how sophistocated or how crude, as well as the conclusions one reaches, are all under Krishna&#8217;s administration.  </p>
<p>In this way the demonic heart will always conclude against the existence of a beautiful Supreme Being.  And the saintly will conclude in favor of our love for that Supreme Person.  </p>
<p>As far as logic and reason go, Lord Caitanya, in discussion or debate, would defeat the logical presentations of His opponents.  Then He would confound them futher by defeating His own conclusions.</p>
<p>According to the invocation to Sri Ishopanishad, although the Supreme Personality and Source of all that be produces so many phenomenal univereses, He still remains perfect and complete.  1 &#8211; 1 = 1.  And although He can expand Himself into unlimited forms, still 1 + 1 = 1.</p>
<p>Srila Bhaktisiddanta Saraswati insists that material logic can never encompass the Absolute Truth.  And so the whole prospect of proving or disproving God by logic is a useless pursuit.  </p>
<p>However, even with our empiric approach we can see that the computer programming that is compressed into a tiny seed is millions of times more sophistocated than the most advanced computer produced in our factories. </p>
<p>The arguments in favor of Supreme intelligence underlying the cosmic manifestation are blatently endless.  But insight is witheld from those who are envious.  </p>
<p>Srila Prabhupada repeatedly explained that one cannot taste the honey by licking the outside of the bottle.  In otherwords, the real scientist cannot be totally objective.  He has to place himself inside the test tube at the feet of the self-realized guru.  But the ability to recognize such a spiritual master will only be granted, by Krishna, to the most sincere seeker.  </p>
<p>So if we want God, we can know Him.  And if we don&#8217;t &#8211; we can&#8217;t.  The argument is not between individual souls.  It is between the conditioned soul and God, Who has nothing to loose.  Whatever position we take, Krishna will support it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/12/kurt-godels-perspective-of-the-divine-a-rational-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-7461</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a quote from the ancient Greeks that says that that which is most rational is most divine, and this sentiment is echoed in the motto from a university in India that, &quot;God is Truth,&quot; and the phrase that &quot;satyan nasti paro Dharma,&quot; there is no higher religion than the truth. There is no conflict between science and religion, if the religion is willing to be as scientific as possible without succumbing to the skepticism of the atheists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a quote from the ancient Greeks that says that that which is most rational is most divine, and this sentiment is echoed in the motto from a university in India that, &#8220;God is Truth,&#8221; and the phrase that &#8220;satyan nasti paro Dharma,&#8221; there is no higher religion than the truth. There is no conflict between science and religion, if the religion is willing to be as scientific as possible without succumbing to the skepticism of the atheists.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagadish das</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/12/kurt-godels-perspective-of-the-divine-a-rational-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-6321</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagadish das</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article especially in light of the modern, so called rational atheists,  Harris and Dawkins.  I would love to see further development of the thinking in this article and perhaps and updated repost.   I will be studying this article further so that I can remember the salient points presented here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article especially in light of the modern, so called rational atheists,  Harris and Dawkins.  I would love to see further development of the thinking in this article and perhaps and updated repost.   I will be studying this article further so that I can remember the salient points presented here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bijaya Kumara Das Brian D Grover</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/12/kurt-godels-perspective-of-the-divine-a-rational-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-3067</link>
		<dc:creator>Bijaya Kumara Das Brian D Grover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very nice discussion]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nice discussion</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Marshall</title>
		<link>http://harmonist.us/2009/12/kurt-godels-perspective-of-the-divine-a-rational-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-3025</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent article. I posted a link to it on my page &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/blog/incompleteness/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/blog/incompleteness/&lt;/a&gt; which discusses related ideas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article. I posted a link to it on my page <a href="http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/blog/incompleteness/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/blog/incompleteness/</a> which discusses related ideas.</p>
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